All of his work has an affinity with rustic folk and outsider art forms. "They were scarier when I first began," he said. "In a way, I am pretty much self-taught. I took a survey course to kind of learn the basics, but I don't have a BFA or MFA, or any of that. I started making these pinched cups and I wanted them to be really gnarly people, right? I didn't want them to be cutesy. I had a whole mindset. I wanted these guys to be angry little people. That's kind of what I was going for. 


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